Experiments with LC circuits part 3
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The next step in improvement of the LC circuit is the use of litzwire with
very much strands.
The next coil is made with litz 660x0.04mm (also called
660/46, 660 is the number of strand, the wiresize is 46 AWG =
0.04 mm).
Coil L9 Wirelenght on the coil: 14.5 meter and two leads of 0.25 m. Total wirelenght: 15 meter. Inside coildiameter: 6 cm. Outside coildiameter: 16 cm. (coilformer is 20 cm diameter). Number of windings: 41 Wire: litz 660x0.04mm Coilformer material: 3mm foam PVC Induction: about 175 uH. |
One measurement is made with capacitor C1b, and one with C2.
Measurement number |
LC combination | F min kHz |
F max kHz |
Q 600 kHz |
Q 900 kHz |
Q 1200 kHz |
Q 1500 kHz |
17 | L9 C1b With 1:100 probe |
537 | 2250 | 983 | 765 | 494 | 365 |
18 | L9 C2 With 1:100 probe |
601 | 2200 | 967 | 606 | 426 | 307 |
Conclusion:
C1b gives a higher Q then C2, this is strange, in
measurement 5 and 6 C2 gives the highest Q.
Coil L9 has a lower induction then e.g. coil L5 (F min is higher), though L9 has
more wirelenght.
The 660x0.04 litz seems to give less induction then the 40x0.07 litz.
The Q of L9 is much higher then the coils made with 40x0.07 litz.
Until now the Q measurements were made with a 1:100 probe between LC circuit
and oscilloscope.
The test setup is discribed here as test setup 2.
But I found that the testprobe has a negative effect on the Q.
In the next measurement I use a self-made FET
amplifier between the LC circuit
and the oscilloscope.
The test setup is described here as test setup 3
The same circuits are now measured again.
Measurement number |
LC combination | F min kHz |
F max kHz |
Q 600 kHz |
Q 900 kHz |
Q 1200 kHz |
Q 1500 kHz |
19 | L9 C1b With FET amplifier |
538 | 2400 | 1077 | 1104 | 846 | 518 |
20 | L9 C2 With FET amplifier |
* | * | 1090 | 918 | 634 | 443 |
By using the FET amplifier, the Q increases, especially at high frequencies.
When measuring high Q circuits, the frequency of the signal generator must be
adjusted very accurate.
With the sweep signal generator I used this was not easy, so the values of Q
were not reliable.
Now I replaced the sweep generator by a DDS generator, at which the frequency
can be very accurate set.
The test setup you will find here as test setup 4.
With the use of the DDS generator I measured the Q's again of the same circuits:
Measurement number |
LC combination | F min kHz |
F max kHz |
Q 600 kHz |
Q 900 kHz |
Q 1200 kHz |
Q 1500 kHz |
21 | L9 C1b With FET amplifier and DDS generator |
539 | 2448 | 967 | 882 | 683 | 583 |
22 | L9 C2 With FET amplifier and DDS generator |
604 | * | 915 (604 kHz) |
756 | 568 | 407 |
The Q's in measurement 21 and 22 are mostly lower than in measurement 19 and
20, this is caused by the inaccuracy of measurements until number 20.
The measurements 17-18 and 19-20 and 21-22 are all done withe the same LC
circuits, only the used test equipment was different.
In my opinion measurement 21 and 22 give the most reliable Q values.
But the measurements before were also usefull because a increase or decrease of
Q could be seen .