Experiments with LC circuits part 1
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Via some experiments en measurements I want to find out, how we can increase the Q of a LC circuit.
Description coils L1, L2,L3
First I made 3 coils (L1,L2 and L3) each with 12.5 meter litzwire (40x0.07mm)
on the coils, and 2 leads of 0.25 m.
So the wire length is each time 13.0 meter.
The coils are spiderweb coils wound on corrugated cardboard formers.
The difference between the coils is the internal diameter, and so also the
number of turns.
Coil L1: inside diameter: 50mm, coilformer diameter: 120mm, number of turns:
50
Coil L2: inside diameter: 40mm, coilformer diameter: 120mm, number of turns: 55
Coil L3: inside diameter: 100mm, coilformer diameter: 170mm, number of turns:
33.5
Description capacitor C1.
The tuner capacitor I used is shown in the picture above.
The maximum capacity is 495 pF.
The original version is named C1.
Later I made some improvements on this capacitor, like changing the screws and
insulation rings, on the picture you see the old screws and insulation rings.
After each improvement, the name is changed in C1a, C1b, etc.
On the picture you see version C1b.
Measurement
In this measurement I measured the minimum and maximum tuning frequency, and the circuit Q at 600, 900, 1200 and 1500 kHz.
measurement number |
LC combination | F min. kHz |
F max. kHz |
Q 600 kHz |
Q 900 kHz |
Q 1200 kHz |
Q 1500 kHz |
1 | L1 C1 | 482 | 1710 | * | * | * | * |
2 | L2 C1 | 480 | 1730 | 200 | 129 | 75 | 58 |
3 | L3 C1 | 495 | 1710 | 200 | 129 | 71 | 58 |
* = not measured.
Conclusion:
The minimum frequency of L3 is higher than L1 and L2, this indicates a lower
inductance of L3 compared to L1 and L2.
The Q is rather low especially at high frequencies.
Improvements on C1
Now I replaced C1 temporary with a air trimmer capacitor with a maximum
capacity of about 33 pF, this trimmer I connected to coil L2.
The minimum frequency was now 1650 kHz, and the Q was 165 at 1650 kHz.
Conclusion: The low Q of measurement 2 and 3 is mainly caused by the (bad) quality of C1.
In a tuner capacitor the quality is mainly determined by the kind of
insulation between rotor (turnable part) and the stator (non turnable part).
In C1 the insulation between the plates is air, and this is a high quality
insulation.
But there are also insulation parts needed to connect the rotor to the stator to
each other, and these also have to be high quality, and also the capacity caused
by these insulation parts must be as low as possible.
For reducing the capacity between rotor and stator, I replaced the metal
screws with nylon screws.
The minimum capacity of C1 now drops from 33 pF to 20 pF.
This version of the tuner capacitor I call C1a.
Next I made this measurement:
Measurement |
LC combination |
F min |
F max |
Q |
Q |
Q |
Q |
4 |
L2 C1a |
* |
1950 |
240 |
225 |
171 |
107 |
Compared with measurement 2 the Q is much higher, especially at higher
freqencies.
Because the lower minimum capacity of C1a, the maximum frequency of the circuit
is also higher.
Next I replaced the original insulation rings by
selfmade insulation blocks made of polyethylene (PE-UHMW), This version is
named: C1b and has a minimum capacity of 14 pF.
This also gives a improvement of the Q.
Measurement |
LC combination |
F min |
F max |
Q |
Q |
Q |
Q |
5 |
L2 C1b |
472 |
2060 |
300 |
300 |
200 |
166 |
Use of other tuner capacitors
For the next experiment I replaced C1b by the following tuner capacitors:
C2 390 pF tuner capacitor |
C3 Small 500 pF tuner capacitor.
|
This gave the following results:
measurement |
LC combination |
F min |
F max |
Q |
Q |
Q |
Q |
6 |
L2 C2 |
537 |
2020 |
300 |
300 |
214 |
195 |
7 |
L2 C3 |
* |
* |
133 |
128 |
109 |
94 |
Measuring coil L1 and L3
The next measurements are again made with capacitor C1b.
Now the capacitor is improved, I want to measure again the differences in Q of
coil L1, L2 and L3.
L2 was already tested in measurement 5, here are the results for L1 and L3.
Measurement |
LC combination |
F min |
F max |
Q |
Q |
Q |
Q |
8 |
L1 C1b |
473 |
2050 |
300 |
300 |
200 |
166 |
9 |
L3 C1b |
487 |
2050 |
300 |
300 |
200 |
166 |
The Q of the coils L1, L2 and L3 are the same, the Q seems not to be dependent on inside diameter of the coils.
Coilformer made of foam PVC
Coil L4 Coil L1, L2 and L3 have corrugated
cardboard coilformers.
|
Measurement |
LC combination |
F min |
F max |
Q |
Q |
Q |
Q |
10 |
L4 C1b |
480 |
2085 |
326 |
310 |
261 |
200 |
Conclusion: the foam PVC coilformer gives a bether Q than the corrugated cardboard former.
Coil L5 Coil L5 has a former made of 3mm foam
PVC.
|
Measurement |
LC combination |
F min |
F max |
Q |
Q |
Q |
Q |
11 |
L5 C1b |
484 |
2050 |
360 |
346 |
279 |
242 |
So, removing material from the former also has a positive effect on the Q.